If you are reading this, chances are that you repeated an anti-vaccine myth or said you weren't vaccinating your children, and someone referred you in an attempt to dispel that myth. If so, I truly hope you keep reading. Because as you know, this issue is vitally important. Vaccines are one of the safest and most effective medical tools ever invented. Hang on, hang on. Before you sigh and click "exit", please continue on. Vaccines have saved literally millions of lives and have eradicated two previously rampant diseases from the face of the planet (smallpox and rinderpest), and they potentially have the capability of eliminating several more, including polio and measles. Unfortunately vaccines have been getting rather unfair treatment from people who make all manner of false claims about their risks. The problem is that impressionable parents believe these lies, and vaccination rates have been falling. This has led to unfortunately predictable outbreaks of several vaccine-preventable diseases, including several outbreaks of measles which have killed thousands of children in 2019 alone.
That's where this article steps in. I have compiled a list of the most oft-repeated myths, half-truths, and outright lies that hardcore anti-vaccine advocates use to scare parents. And I get it - you love your children and want to protect them. I'm a parent too. I have two small children whom I love more than life itself, and just like you I would do anything and everything to keep them safe.
So with that said, please read on. Nothing I am presenting here is opinion, it is all backed by hard evidence.
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Let's get started.
1) If you want to pump your kid full of massive amounts of toxins . . .This is almost universally the first argument I see. This is the type of picture that is usually flashed:
A terrified crying child, big syringes full of a large amount of scary yellow stuff that looks like apple juice, multiple injections at one time. I could call this a lot of things - fear mongering, scare tactics, hyperbole. But a far more accurate term would be nonsense. Here is what an actual vaccine injection looks like:
Calm baby, tiny needle (which you can barely even see because it's so small), tiny amount of clear fluid. The actual volume of a vaccine is 0.5 ml. That's just 10 drops. Sure some kids cry when they receive vaccinations, but that's because needles can be scary. But regardless, there is no pumping, no massive amounts of anything, and certainly no toxins.
2). . . toxins like mercuryThere is no elemental mercury in any vaccine, nor has there ever been. What you are referring to is thimerosal, which is approximately 50% ethylmercury. And while the word "ethylmercury" has the word "mercury" in it, that does not make it either mercury or poison. Think of it this way: the word "chair" has "hair" in it. That doesn't mean it's made of hair.
Ok, that is admittedly a terrible analogy. How about this: sodium is a metal which explodes when exposed to water, and chloride gas is highly poisonous. But when you (well, not you exactly) combine the two into a compound, it produces ordinary table salt (which can still be toxic, but that's a subject for another time). This is basic chemistry. Basic. Heh. Yes, that was a chemistry joke.
Anyway, ethylmercury is not the mercury found in thermometers. It is also not the dangerous mercury compound found in fish. That would be methylmercury, and though it is only one letter different than ethylmercury, it is an entirely different compound with entirely different metabolism and effect on human physiology (just like ethanol, which is the alcohol found in your wine, and methanol, which will kill you if you drink it). Studies have found that ethylmercury is readily metabolised and excreted so does not increase blood mercury levels, while methymercury lingers for much longer and is much more toxic.
This all ignores the fact that thimerosal was removed from all childhood vaccines in the US in 2001. I will address this point further later.
3) . . . and aluminum . . .Aluminum salts have been used as adjuvants in vaccines for decades. Adjuvants increase the immune response, increasing the chance that a vaccine will grant immunity. The exact mechanism by which it does this is still not clear, but what is clear is that aluminum salts have been extensively studied and found to be safe. This is an excellent review article which documents the excellent safety profile and the minimal risks (including macrophagic myofasciitis) of using aluminum salt adjuvants. Yes, they have risks. But they are very small, mainly because the amount of aluminum in any vaccine is very small. There is also no aluminum in MMR, nor has there every been.
4) . . . and polysorbate 80 . . .Polysorbate 80 is a surfactant and emulsifier used in innumerable foods, cosmetics, eye drops, mouth wash, etc. It is also used in some vaccines as a stabiliser, but in such tiny amounts as to be negligible to human physiology.
As a comparison, the HPV vaccine contains 50 microgram of polysorbate 80, while a small scoop of ice cream contains about 170,000 micrograms, or 3400 times as much polysorbate 80. (reference) It has also been studied in infants given vaccines with and without polysorbate 80, and it has been found to be safe.
5) . . . aborted foetal tissue . . .No babies are aborted to manufacture vaccines. A few vaccines are grown on cell lines derived from a foetus that was aborted decades ago, because viruses grow better on the type of cells that they normally infect. The vaccine is then washed, eliminating all but a trace of the growth medium. So there are no dead babies in any vaccine, and no new foetuses are aborted to make vaccines.
6) . . . formaldehyde . . .Formaldehyde sounds scary, because everyone knows it is the chemical used to preserve corpses. However, formaldehyde is actually a very normal part of human metabolism. As you sit there reading this, your cells are creating way more formaldehyde than could be found in any vaccine. In fact, in the 30 or so seconds it took you to read this paragraph thus far, your liver has metabolised about 11 mg of formaldehyde, which is over 10 times as much as an infant could ever receive from even multiple vaccines (0.7 mg). In the time it took you to read that last sentence, an infant would have already metabolised all the formaldehyde from their vaccines twice. If your infant read that last sentence, however, then Mensa would probably like to have a word with you. And her.
7) . . . cancer virus.Unfortunately many thousands of people unknowingly (at the time) received a polio vaccine that was tainted (or contaminated, if you'd prefer) with SV40, which is a virus that infects monkeys (the "S" stands for "simian"). And that is truly unfortunate. However, SV40 was not discovered until 1960, whereas the polio vaccine was first produced in 1955. It was simply not yet known. But once it was discovered, it was removed from the polio vaccine (obviously).
Still, by the time it was removed in 1963 about 90% of children had received a polio vaccine contaminated with the virus, which causes tumours in animals. Of course the fear was that it would also cause cancer in humans, and it is true that SV40 has been found in various human cancer cells. However, it has been extensively studied, and while the virus has been found in human cancers, a review of the evidence has shown that SV40 does not cause cancer in humans. It has been studied for over 50 years, and no association has been found. It also hasn't been in any vaccine since 1963, so there is no cancer in any vaccine.
8) Vaccines cause autism.The short answer here is "No they don't", but that won't (and shouldn't) satisfy you. Vaccines have been studied extensively for their possible role in causing autism. There are exactly ZERO large studies that show any association between vaccines and autism, and while I'm thinking about it there are exactly ZERO small studies which show it. This myth comes from a very small study by former doctor Andrew Wakefield in 1998, where his sample size was only 12 patients. The study was retracted due to ethical violations and scientific misrepresentation, and Wakefield was stripped of his licence to practice medicine (you can read more about his fraud here).
On the other hand, there are multiple studies of tens or even hundreds of thousands of children from various countries around the planet, each of which show no association between vaccines and autism. Here are a few of them:
1) Danish study of MMR and 537,000 children - no link
2) Finnish study of MMR and 535,000 children - no link
3) US study of MMR and 95,000 children - no link
4) UK study of thimerosal and DPT/DT and 109,000 children - no link
5) Danish study of thimerosal-containing vaccines and 467,000 children - no link
6) US study of thimerosal-containing vaccines and 124,000 children - no link
7) Danish study of MMR and 657,000 children (including high risk children) - no link
That last one was just published March 4, 2019 and represents probably the largest, most comprehensive study which shows absolutely no link between MMR and autism. They even looked at children who had siblings with autism and other risk factors that would make them high risk for autism, but they still found no link. The conclusion speaks for itself:
Conclusion: The study strongly supports that MMR vaccination does not increase the risk for autism, does not trigger autism in susceptible children, and is not associated with clustering of autism cases after vaccination. It adds to previous studies through significant additional statistical power and by addressing hypotheses of susceptible subgroups and clustering of cases.That is 7 huge studies including over 2.5 million children vs various anecdotes or Wakefield's fraudulent paper that started it all.
Vaccines DO NOT cause autism.
9) Only MMR has been studied.I will refer you back to response 8 above. Studies 4, 5, and 6 all looked at children who received thimerosal-containing vaccines. As mentioned above MMR never contained thimerosal. So yes, other vaccines have most definitely been studied, and they all show the same thing - that those other vaccines also do not cause autism.
10) MTHFRMTHFR stands for methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase. It is a gene on chromosome 1 which encodes an enzyme that catalyses 5,10-methylenetetrahydrofolate to 5-methyltetrahydrofolate (which has to do with homocystine metabolism and is some pretty fancy science). There are many polymorphisms (ie variations) of the genes, and some are incredibly common (for example, 10% of the North American population has 2 copies of a specific polymorphism). Preliminary research shows it may increase the risk of schizophrenia or dementia, but no research shows the gene has anything to do with any vaccine side effect.
MTHFR is a polymorphism, not a mutation. Those two words are not synonymous, and you can read about the difference between them here.
11) What about Hannah Poling?Hannah Poling had a very rare mitochondrial disorder, so rare that its exact incidence is unknown. She received her normal series of vaccines at 19 months old (DTaP, MMR, HiB, varicella, polio), and two days later was lethargic with a rash. She was diagnosed with vaccine-derived varicella, and several months later continued to have delays in her neurological development. Ultimately she was diagnosed with encephalopathy, followed by language, behaviour, and communication problems. Though mitochondrial disorders can appear quite similar to autism, her parents (including her father, who is a neurologist) took her case to the Vaccine Court and won.
While it may appear that means that vaccines caused her autism, it really doesn't. Dr. Paul Offit has reviewed this case in very specific detail here, but I'll give a short summary nevertheless: Infections are known to exacerbate encephalopathy but vaccines are not. And children with mitochondrial disorders are at a higher risk of infections, which can exacerbate encephalopathy.
So did vaccines cause Hannah's autism? No.
12) Dr. Andrew Zimmerman said vaccines cause autism.Andrew Zimmerman is a paediatric neurologist who co-authored a case report in 2006 which documented a child with a mitochondrial disorder who developed autism after being vaccinated (sound familiar?). While this is being translated by anti-vaccine advocates as "VACCINES CAN CAUSE AUTISM!", the issue is actually much more complex. Dr. Zimmerman's full statement was: "There may be a subset of children who are at risk of regression if they have underlying mitochondrial dysfunction and are simultaneously exposed to factors that stress their mitochrondrial reserve (which is critical for developing the brain). Such factors might include infections, as well as metabolic and immune factors, and vaccines".
In other words, children with these extremely rare disorders may be predisposed to developing autism or autism-like symptoms if they are exposed to some environmental trigger. Vaccines may be one of them, but there are many others as well. Keep in mind that children are exposed to thousands of antigens every single day of their lives. Unless they are kept in a sterile bubble, the risk with these children is way higher with infectious diseases compared to vaccines.
13) Dr. Wakefield was exonerated.Mister Wakefield lost his licence to practice medicine and thus should not be called "Doctor". And no he wasn't. Charges against one of his co-authors, who has stated both his continued support of MMR and that their paper did not establish any link between MMR and autism, were dropped on appeal. Mr. Wakefield, on the other hand, lost his licence due to his elaborately fraudulent paper which involved paying children at his kid's birthday party £5 for blood samples, without permission from an ethics committee. Wakefield was also trying to patent his own single measles vaccine by tarnishing the reputation of MMR. He is a bad person who wrote a bad study and has been using his infamy to spread bad misinformation which harms children.
Wakefield was not exonerated. He never won any appeal and he did not get his licence back. He now spends his time in the US making anti-vaccine propaganda movies with other anti-vaccine advocates, as well as spreading his propaganda to impressionable immigrants, which has caused outbreaks of measles. In short, Andrew Wakefield is a hazard to society.
14) CDC whistleblower.This is merely an elaborate conspiracy. It involves a team of CDC researchers, including William Thompson, supposedly throwing data in the garbage can (literally) which purportedly showed that black children were more than three times more likely to develop autism as a result of vaccines. This was supposedly found after a non-scientist named Brian Hooker re-evaluated the data.
Unfortunately there are a few problems with this: first, who keeps paper data anymore? Data is all digital and backed up repeatedly in multiple locations. If they didn't then they are shoddy researchers who should not be trusted with anything. Second, William Thompson is still employed by CDC. Whistleblowers generally do not continue working for the company or agency against whom they blew a whistle. Third, the re-evaluation by Hooker was completely incorrectly done, using the wrong statistical analysis to evaluate the data. And fourth, even if the re-evaluation were true (it isn't - read here), it only shows an increase in risk in one demographic (black males). It did not show any increased risk in white boys or girls. This would mean that vaccines STILL do not cause autism in every other demographic.
15) Why is my unvaccinated kid such a threat to your vaccinated kid if vaccines work?There are several answers to this question. First, no vaccine is 100% effective. The closest is measles, which is 97% effective after two doses. So despite the fact that a very high percentage of children are vaccinated, there is a 3% chance that it will still fail. Second, not all children can be vaccinated due to immunocompromise. Third, some children are too young to be vaccinated and are completely unprotected. Fourth, believe it or not we care about your child too. No child should contract and suffer through any of these diseases if it can be avoided.
16) These are all just harmless childhood diseases.None of these vaccine-preventable diseases is harmless. Measles, for example, continues to kill over 100,000 children every year. In fact, there has only been one year on record that measles has killed fewer than 100,000 children (2016). Between 2000 and 2017, global measles vaccination increased from 72 to 85%, while during the same period measles rates decreased 83% and measles deaths fell 80%. Let me repeat - measles deaths fell 80%. To this you may say "But that isn't happening in my country!", but that is rather heartless. Children are dying of these diseases to this day.
And that's just for measles (which seems to have become the poster child for "harmless" vaccine-preventable diseases). Unfortunately this argument ignores all the other various deadly and/or debilitating diseases for which vaccines exist (hepatitis B, Haemophilus influenza, meningitis, polio, etc). Even chicken pox. Yes, chicken pox, which used to kill about hundred kids in the United States alone each year before the vaccine. Even one child killed by chicken pox is too many. And after the vaccine was introduced, this happened:
Some people try to use an episode of "The Brady Bunch" as evidence that measles was considered harmless, but keep in mind that was a sitcom, produced to make people laugh. It was not a documentary on the supposed (but nonexistent) benign nature of infectious diseases.
Consider this picture:
which shows two young cousins age 4 and 7 who died within 2 days of each other from diphtheria, which is preventable with a vaccine.
which shows two brothers and a sister, ages 7, 10, and 11, who all died within about two weeks of each other of diphtheria, which is preventable with a vaccine.
The fact is there are graveyards filled with the gravestones of children who died of vaccine-preventable diseases. While it is true that most children survive these diseases, all of them can kill, and not a single one of them is truly benign. NONE of them.
17) But there are too many vaccines on the schedule. 72 doses!You have probably seen this graphic (or a similar one):
This is supposed to scare people into thinking that kids just get more unnecessary shots compared to 50 years ago. But when you look closer, the truth becomes clear. In 1960 there were only three shots which prevented 5 diseases (polio, smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus). By 1983 this had been expanded to include 3 more diseases (measles, mumps, and rubella), and studies had shown that efficacy was much better for several vaccines when boosters were given. By 2016 we were now able to protect children from several other diseases, including flu, rotavirus, chicken pox, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, haemophilus influenza, pneumococcus, and meningitis. Protecting children from diseases is a good thing, not a bad thing. Yes we give children many more shots now, but only because we don't want them to suffer or die the way so many others did.
I had chicken pox as a child because there was no vaccine for it at the time. I remember it vividly because it was unquestionably the worst week of my life. I wouldn't wish chicken pox on my worst enemy, so it's fortunate we now have a vaccine for it.
I watched my sister almost die from H flu meningitis when she was a toddler (also no vaccine at the time). She survived and recovered fully, but the kid in the adjacent room was not so lucky. He died. But we can now prevent that disease, which is a very good thing.
18) There are too many vaccines too soon.There is no evidence to support such a statement. You have probably been led to believe that children's immune systems are not developed enough to be able to handle the antigens in a vaccine, but keep in mind children can handle all the other thousands or millions of antigens they deal with every day. If you've ever watched an infant for more than 5 seconds, you know they put everything right in their mouths. That teething ring your little angel just put back in her mouth was sitting on the floor that you walk on. Unless you sterilised your shoes this morning, your floor (and that teething ring) are covered in antigens (ie germs). Your child's immune system can handle that, so it can handle a few antigens in a few vaccines, even at the same time.
And yes, there is evidence to support this statement right here: On-time vaccine receipt in the first year does not adversely affect neuropsychological outcomes.
19) But the vaccine schedule has never been tested.
Yes it has. In fact, here is one such piece of evidence. And here is a study of macaques who were given the full infant vaccine schedule and observed for 5 years (keep in mind that autism generally manifests around 2 years old), and there were no neurodevelopmental problems. The ironic part of this study was that it was funded by an anti-vaccine organisation who was expecting to find problems, but they didn't. Needless to say they were not happy.
20) But the vaccine court has paid out billions. This proves vaccine injury is real and vaccines are dangerous.The vaccine court was created in the United States to make it easier for parents to get compensation for serious adverse events following vaccination. So let's actually look at the numbers from the vaccine court. According to the latest statistics (July, 2018) between 2006 and 2016 a total of 3,153,876,236 doses of vaccines were distributed in the US. Over that same time period, there were 3727 compensable claims in the vaccine court amounting to $1.74 billion (the $3.5 billion number being bandied about is the total amount give by the court since its inception in 1989). Crunching the numbers shows us 3727 claims divided by 3,153,876,236 doses of vaccines, which comes out to 0.000118%. That is just over 1 compensable claim per million doses. In other words, the amount the vaccine court has awarded seems huge at first glance, but it is far less important than the actual number of cases, and the number of cases is far less important than the proportion of compensable cases compared to doses given. And that's one per million doses
The numbers from the vaccine court prove that vaccines are not 100% safe (which is fully acknowledged by everyone in the medical field), but that they are REALLY close.
As for the claim that vaccine manufacturers are immune from being sued, no they aren't. While it is true in the US that you go through the vaccine court first, it is still possible for the manufacturers to be sued. And this is of course ignoring the fact that the vaccine court (and NCVIP) only applies in one country on the planet.
21) Only 10% of vaccine reactions are even reported.I'm not sure where that estimate came from, but I do see it repeated very often. Regardless, of course most adverse events aren't reported, because most vaccine reactions are mild and self-limiting (injection site pain, swelling, and redness). My arm was a bit sore after my last flu shot. Technically that is a "vaccine reaction", but did I report it? No. The serious ones get reported.
22) It's my child, so it's my choice.Of course it's your choice, and no one is saying it isn't (except the truly hardcore vaccine proponents, who overstate things about child protective services). But what if you choose to beat your child with a plank of wood? Is that your choice?
Yes, how you raise your child is your choice. No one is trying to take your choices away from you. If you want to feed your kid nothing but organic, free range, sugar-free, gluten-free, non-GMO kale, that's your prerogative. You'll probably end up with a malnourished (and picky) (and very angry) kid, but that's completely up to you. And sure, not vaccinating your child is also your choice. No one is going to force you to take your kid to the doctor for her shots no matter what anti- or pro-vaccine fear mongers want you to believe, and no one is going to snatch them away and do it without your knowledge or consent. But if you are making that choice based on misinformation and fear, then you are making the wrong choice.
23) Compulsory vaccines are wrong.I suppose that depends on your definition of "wrong". If you mean it violates your civil rights or civil liberties, no it doesn't. The United States Supreme Court ruled that states may indeed enact mandatory vaccination laws in Jacobson v Massachusetts. And they also ruled in Zucht v. King that schools may refuse admission to children who are not vaccinated.
There are currently mandatory vaccination laws in Argentina, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, China, Croatia, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Malta, Latvia, Pakistan, Poland, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Ukraine (no, the US and Canada have no federal law mandating vaccines, though all 50 states and 3 provinces require children to be vaccinated prior to starting school).
Vaccination laws do not violate any civil liberties.
24) Unvaccinated children are healthier.No they aren't. There are no reputable studies that support this argument. There are a few which have been published, most notably one by Mawson which was first retracted and then published in a predatory journal, but it was just a questionnaire of mothers who homeschool their children. Medical records were not consulted, and vaccination status was not verified. In fact, the authors even state this as the potential limitation of the "study": "We did not set out to test a specific hypothesis about the association between vaccination and health." The other is a questionnaire (again, not a study) by German homeopath Bachmair, which is also not a study.
Fortunately there are actual studies that look at the health of vaccinated vs unvaccinated children, such as these:
Vaccination Status and Health in Children and Adolescents
Early-life determinants of asthma from birth to age 20 years: A German birth cohort study
The effect of vaccination on children's physical and cognitive development in the Philippines
Vaccinated versus unvaccinated children: how they fare in first five years of life.
High Intensive Care Unit Admission Rate for 2013–2014 Influenza Is Associated with a Low Rate of Vaccination
All of these real studies show the same thing - that unvaccinated children are NOT healthier but contract vaccine-preventable diseases at a MUCH higher rate than vaccinated children." Vaccinated children do not have a higher risk of asthma, allergies, or cognitive issues.
25) There is no true study of unvaccinated vs vaccinated children!True. That study would be unethical, because it would purposefully withhold vaccines from 50% of the study participants, which would be the vulnerable children everyone is trying to protect. A "true" vaccinated-unvaccinated study would observe tens or hundreds of thousands of children from birth through adulthood, with only half of them getting vaccinated, leaving the other half vulnerable, though no one would know which half was which. While I'm sure some die-hard anti-vaccine advocates would volunteer their children to be in the unvaccinated arm of such a study, that's not the way these randomised studies work. First, there would be a 50% chance that anyone else's child would be in the unvaccinated arm, leaving them vulnerable to various diseases, and no reasonable parent would consent to such a study. Plus, there would be a 50% chance the anti-vaccine advocates' child would be in the vaccinated arm, and I somehow doubt they would be ok with that either.
Regardless, no researcher with any sense of ethics would allow such a study to be done, knowing that half the children in the study are being left unprotected from so many preventable diseases, and no institutional review board would allow such a study to be proposed, let alone done. It will simply never happen.
26) According to VAERS . . .If you are using the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System in your argument, then I need to explain what VAERS is and how it works. VAERS is a passive reporting system where literally anyone can report any adverse reaction to a vaccine. I'll repeat - anyone can report any adverse reaction in VAERS. As an example, there are several children who have died in car accidents in VAERS:
27) Vaccines are not 100% effective.No they aren't, and no one has ever claimed they are. Seat belts aren't 100% effective either, but you should still wear one.
Let's just see exactly how well they do work:
Incidence of tetanus: decreased by 96%
Incidence of pertussis: decreased by 86%
Incidence of measles: decreased by over 99%Incidence of hepatitis B: decreased by 87%
Incidence of diphtheria: decreased by 100%
Yes, vaccines are spectacularly effective.
28) Vaccines are not 100% safe.
Nothing is 100% safe. When discussing severe side effects, vaccines are approximately 99.9999% safe (1 severe adverse event per 1 million doses). If I told you that the severe complication rate from a "routine" surgery was 1/1000, would you run away screaming? Probably not, but that is the true number for "routine" gall bladder surgery, and it is literally one thousand times higher than the risk from any vaccine. And while many severe surgical complications result in death or permanent disability, the overwhelming majority of patients with severe adverse reactions from vaccines recover completely.
29) The flu vaccine is worthless.
I will agree that the flu vaccine is the least effective vaccine available, and the efficacy varies from year to year depending on how close the vaccines approximate the prevalent infecting strains. As opposed to the ones above, the average efficacy is around 45%, which at first admittedly sounds pretty terrible. But look at it this way - 45% is literally infinity times higher than 0%, which is exactly how effective not getting a flu shot is.
30) The flu shot causes Guillain–Barré syndrome.
GBS is a known complication of the flu shot - an extremely rare one. The relative risk of GBS after any flu shot is 1.41 (1.84 after pandemic flu shot, 1.22 after seasonal flu shot). However, the risk of GBS is significantly higher (about 1-8 cases per 100,000 population) after actually getting infected with the flu (or other infections).
The risk of GBS after flu vaccination is less than 1 per million, and the vast majority of cases of GBS recover fully.
31) The flu shot causes the flu.
No it doesn't, and it never has. Not occasionally, not sometimes, NEVER. The flu shot is a dead virus vaccine, meaning it is 100% biologically impossible to get the flu from a flu shot. Feeling a little crummy for a day or two after a flu shot is not the flu - that's your body's immune system reacting to the shot, meaning it is doing what it is supposed to do. If you got the actual flu immediately after getting a flu shot, you had either 1) probably already acquired the virus but hadn't shown symptoms yet, or 2) picked it up wherever you got the shot.
Note this refers to the flu shot, not the flu mist, which is an attenuated vaccine.
32) The flu mist sheds.
Yes it does, but it is only for about a week and at very low levels. And there are exactly 0 reported cases of actual illness from this virus. None. Zero. It has never happened.
33) Genetic drift means the attenuated flu virus can change back to wild-type and cause infections.
This is absolutely true. In fact, this most probably will happen. And the odds are about 1 in 100 quintillion replication cycles. For anyone unfamiliar with that number, it's a trillion trillion, or 100,000,000,000,000,000,000. When you do the math, it will take approximately 1000 years for this to happen, and hopefully by then all infectious diseases will have been eradicated.
34) I've never gotten the flu shot, and I've never gotten the flu.
That's great. But let me pose this silly scenario: I put a banana in my fireplace every night before I go to sleep, and I have never had a bear break into my house. So does that mean the banana prevents bear attacks?
Ok ok, I'll give you a slightly less silly analogy - I've never gotten into a serious car accident and I don't wear my seat belt, so I don't need to wear a seat belt. Or consider this - I do not have a smoke detector in my house or a fire extinguisher, and I have never had a fire in my house, so I need neither a smoke detector nor a fire extinguisher. Or how about this - my kid has never crashed his bicycle and suffered a severe traumatic brain injury and he never wears a helmet, so he doesn't need to wear a helmet.
The fact that you've never gotten the flu despite not getting the flu shot doesn't mean you don't need the flu shot, it just means you happened not to need it before. It doesn't mean your immune system is better than anyone else's. It only indicates that you have been lucky so far.
35) Why would you give a 1-day old baby a hepatitis B vaccine?
Hepatitis B is not just an infection of IV drug abusers and prostitutes. It is an extremely serious infection worldwide, with nearly 300 million people suffering from it. An estimated 2 million children worldwide are infected with hep B. The big problem is that when contracted as a child, hepatitis B is much more likely to develop into a chronic disease, resulting in cirrhosis or liver cancer. It can be transmitted from mother to child during childbirth, or from child-to-child from bites or other bodily fluids. No one is saying your child is going to shoot up heroin at age 3, but at the same time you can't guarantee the little brat next door who is unknowingly and asymptomatically infected isn't going to bite your kid and give him a death sentence.
The great part about the hep B vaccine is that it is extremely effective, with a 72% worldwide drop in prevalence due to widespread vaccination. That should also put your fear that a 1-day-old baby isn't equipped to handle a vaccine to rest. But wait, there's more! The best part is that the vaccine has been shown to last for at least 30 years, with no boosters needed after the initial 3-shot series. In other words, a vaccine given to a newborn child will last well into and through their doing-stupid-stuff years.
36) Vaccine immunity wanes.
Depending on the vaccine, yes sometimes it does. However, if it waned significantly, we'd be seeing epidemics of diphtheria, polio, and measles in previously vaccinated adults. Have you heard of any of those?
If you're still arguing, see #37 below.
37) The pertussis vaccine doesn't work.
It is true that the current pertussis vaccine doesn't work as well as the previous one. The original pertussis vaccine was a whole cell vaccine, meaning the entire B. pertussis bacterium (inactivated) was used, and it was extremely effective. However, due to a relatively high rate of local adverse reactions (pain, redness, and swelling), it was swapped for an acellular vaccine, which contains only pertussis toxin or other various components of the bacterium and not the whole organism. However, not only is the acellular vaccine more expensive, but the local side effect rate is about the same as the whole cell version. To make things worse, it is not as effective as the whole cell vaccine, and immunity tends to wane within 5-7 years. But immunity to the tetanus portion of the DPT combination vaccine also wanes in about 10 years, so boosters are recommended for both.
That's the end of that story. It works, but not as well as the previous version, and not as well as it should. A better vaccine is necessary. Don't worry, I'm not entirely satisfied with that answer either.
38) Natural immunity is better than artificial immunity.
That depends on your definition of "better":
-Longer lasting? Sure.
-Doesn't require a scary shot with scary-sounding ingredients which are not actually scary once you understand them? Most definitely.
-Requires you to suffer through the disease AND SURVIVE in order to gain immunity? YES.
Not suffering through a disease is always better than suffering through a disease, I assure you.
Plus, I am also baffled why anyone thinks "natural" is somehow better. Belladonna is natural, but it will kill you. Tornadoes are completely natural, but they will kill you. It doesn't get much more natural than the Sydney funnel-web spider, but it will kill you. Natural does not necessarily mean better. At all.
39) I've never met anyone who has had any of these diseases.
This statement is incredibly ironic since it implies that these vaccines actually work extremely well. Vaccines are a victim of their own success. Because they work so well and have nearly eradicated so many previously common diseases, doctors in practice now have probably never seen most (if not all) of them, nor have parents. The memory of children dead or disabled from polio, the vision of rows upon rows of children in hospitals in iron lungs has faded to the point where some people actually believe polio was relatively harmless. The fact that smallpox hospitals, entire hospitals dedicated to treating smallpox, no longer even need to exist because of vaccines is lost to the ravages of time. No one remembers the parents waiting in line to get their kids vaccinated against measles. But those lines still exist today:
40) The number of cases of these diseases were all falling before vaccines.
This is commonly known as the "VACCINES DIDN'T SAVE US" argument, and it is 100% false. Take a look at this graph:
But the number of cases of these diseases (ALL OF THEM) did not fall until the vaccines were introduced. Again, to illustrate:
41) Clean water and sanitation caused disease rates to fall, not vaccines.
This is clearly not true because:
- diphtheria rates began to decline in the 1930's after the vaccine was introduced, and
- polio rates began to decline in 1955 when the vaccine was introduced, and
- measles rates began to decline in 1963 when the vaccine was introduced, and
- rubella rates began to decline in 1969 when the vaccine was introduced, and
- chicken pox rates began to decline in 1995 when the vaccine was introduced, and
- rotavirus rates began to decline in 2006 when the vaccine was introduced.
Furthermore, while the mortality graph sure makes it looks like the mortality rate of these diseases was 0, it was not. Not remotely. Hundreds of children in the US still died every year of measles:
42) Vaccines cause SIDS.
No they don't. You have this entirely backwards: vaccines reduce the risk of SIDS by 50%. This is based not just one one paper, not two, but a meta-analysis of nine case-control studies looking at the relationship between vaccination and SIDS. And it found that vaccination decreases the risk of SIDS by half.
Vaccines DO NOT cause SIDS. They never have.
43) SIDS is listed on the package insert as a potential side effect!
Oh, you must be talking about this?
The vaccine insert is a legal document, and vaccine manufacturers are legally obligated to list every adverse event that has been reported, regardless of whether or not the vaccine has caused it. That's also why you see "autism" on that list. It has been reported in children who have gotten that vaccine. But autism has also been reported in children who have not gotten that vaccine, though there is no legal document for that. The vaccine insert does not state, imply, or in any other way suggest that the vaccine caused it.
44) No one has died in the US of measles since 2003.
This is yet another ironic testament as to the effectiveness of the vaccine. Unfortunately, this is also false, since a woman in Washington State died of measles-related complications in 2015, two people died of measles in 2010, and two people died of measles in 2009.
This also ignores the fact that around the world over 100,000 children still die of measles every year (see #16 above).
45) But over 100 people have died of the MMR since 2003, so more people die of the vaccine than the disease.
This "100" figure is derived from VAERS, which as you learned in #26 above is not designed to track that kind of data. So, there is no way to determine if this figure is even remotely true, though I highly doubt it is even close. There are about 4 million children born in the US each year, and since median vaccine coverage is 94.3%, that's 3,772,000 children getting the measles vaccine each year. As we know the serious adverse event rate is around 1 per million doses, so that would be between 3 and 4 serious adverse events annually, and most children recover completely. Even if they all died (they don't), that would be 16 years x 3.7 children = approximately 59 deaths, not 100. And that's if they all died, which they most assuredly do not.
46) Doctors even admit that vaccines are dangerous.
Do they? Which ones? How many of them? This is just another form of "Some people believe . . ." If I were to say, "I believe the sky is purple", I could then logically go on to say "Some people believe the sky is purple". Is the sky purple? Does that make the sky purple? Of course not, but some people believe it is, so that means it might be true! Except that it doesn't.
What you're saying is that some doctors believe it, or at least they say they do. These are fringe doctors who are members of fringe groups who believe fringe things. So the important question is, what other beliefs do these doctors espouse? If you look hard enough you can find paleontologists who believe earth is less than 10,000 years old (like this guy who has a Ph.D in paleontology from Harvard. Seriously). I will grant that there are a few doctors who are anti-vaccine, the most prominent and/or vocal being:
- Joe Mercola, DO, who also believes that sunscreen causes skin cancer, homeopathy can treat autism, and HIV does not cause AIDS; and who has an online store;
- Sherri Tenpenny, DO, who also believes an earthquake could cause California to fall off North America and sink into the Pacific Ocean, and who missed her entire third grade because she was too sick; and who has an online store;
- Toni Bark, MD, who also practices homeopathy, and who has an online store;
- Russell Blaylock, MD, who also believes in chemtrails, that aspartame causes multiple sclerosis, and that MSG is toxic to the brain; and who has an online store;
- Tetyana Obukhanych, PhD who is not a physician but does have a Ph.D in immunology, who believes that immunology has no evidence-based explanation for immunity due to vaccines, that vaccines compromise our "natural immunity", and that homeopathy works;
- Jack Wolfson, DO, who touts himself as a "holistic cardiologist", charges a $2800 fee for an initial consultation, and who believes children should get measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox because it is "their right"; and who has an online store;
- Kelly Brogan, MD, who is also an HIV-AIDS denialist, advises diabetics not to take insulin, and who has an online store;
- Suzanne Humphries, MD, who believes homeopathy works, who believes pertussis can be treated with vitamin C, and who believes the bible is a reason not to vaccinate; but who does not have an online store
Keep in mind that every single major medical association in the entire world supports vaccines. Every. Single. One. And if you've heard of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, despite their official-sounding name they're one of those fringe groups I mentioned who have advocated such beliefs as AIDS denialism and abortions causing breast cancer. Quacks, all.
47) Vaccines cause autoimmune diseases.
There are a few known associations of vaccines increasing the risk of certain autoimmune diseases, such as the flu vaccine and Guillain-Barré and MMR with immune thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP). And it makes sense that vaccines could hypothetically cause autoimmune diseases, since they are designed to stimulate the immune system, and autoimmune diseases are disorders of that immune system. However, studies have shown that these are very rare. Using MMR and ITP as an example, there is an increased risk. However, 1) the risk with vaccines is lower than it is with measles infection, 2) the clinical course of ITP after vaccination is less severe compared to ITP after measles infection, and 3) 90% of children with ITP resolve completely within 6 months.
If you're curious about the actual risk, they only described 23 cases in 700,000 children. That's just 0.0033%.
As for other autoimmune diseases (like ASIA), these occurrences are so fleetingly rare that studying them is difficult exactly because of their rarity, and some researchers do not believe ASIA even exists. An excellent review article can be found here which details pretty much everything I just said.
48) Vaccines cause seizures.
Febrile seizures are a well-known and relatively common side effect of vaccines, but they are also a well-known and relatively common side effect of many febrile illnesses. That's why they are called "febrile seizures" - it's the fever that causes them. They also aren't nearly as common as you may think - this study found a risk of 1 febrile seizure per 3,300 vaccinations even when multiple vaccines were given at the same time. Keep in mind that 3-5% of children experience a febrile seizure each year due to an infection (in other words unrelated to vaccines), so a busy paediatrician seeing 500 infants each year would see one vaccine-related febrile seizure every 5-10 years.
And just like any other febrile seizure, the seizures associated with vaccination do not cause or increase the risk of life-long seizure disorders. And this long-term follow up study of children who had febrile seizures showed no difference in academic performance compared to their peers.
Febrile seizures are terrifying to parents, make no mistake. But as scary as they look, they are benign.
49) Vaccines cause allergies, asthma, and eczema.
This myth is referring to the supposed epidemic of food allergies, peanut allergies, atopic dermatitis, etc. This myth is not, however, supported by actual data.
This study of thousands of children across 97 centers in 10 countries showed no evidence that any vaccine is associated with food allergies, airborne allergies, or eczema.
This study of over 1000 children found the exact same thing.
This British study of over 29,000 children found the exact same thing.
And this study of nearly 15,000 children across 5 countries found, once again, the exact same thing.
There are multiple studies of tens of thousands of children across dozens of countries around the globe which all show that vaccines are not associated with allergies, asthma, or eczema.
50) What about the Cutter Incident?
This is one of those terribly unfortunate tragedies in medicine that should never happen but still did. A batch of live polio vaccines made by Cutter Laboratories in 1955 were not properly inactivated, and at least 120,000 people received them before they were recalled, now known as the Cutter Incident. This caused about 40,000 cases of mild polio, 56 cases of paralysis, and 5 deaths.
There are other medical tragedies, including the production and distribution of blood products tainted with HIV prior to the virus having been discovered, Dr. Mengele's horrific human experimentation during the Holocaust, and similar ghastly experiments on humans in Japan's Unit 731. But perhaps the most notorious is the 1932 Tuskegee Study, in which black men who were already infected with syphilis were knowingly not treated for the infection, even after penicillin was proved to treat it successfully in 1947. The investigators withheld both treatment and information about that treatment until a whistleblower finally blew the lid off in 1972. The fact that this continued for 40 years only compounds its utterly unethical nature, and it has fueled a deep distrust in the medical industry which continues to this day.
These occurrences are rare but terrible. There is absolutely no doubt that they should never happen. But they have, they did, and they still do. However, this is hardly a reason to argue against vaccination in general. Incidents like these should be taken as very difficult lessons from which we can learn and then prevent anything like them from ever happening again.
51) And the Simpsonwood meeting . . .
And here is where we start diving into Conspiracy Theory Land. This CDC conference ("Scientific Review of Vaccine Safety Datalink Information" actually happened in 2000. They reviewed the data regarding the possible link between thimerosal and autism and ultimately refuted any link, obviously. Enter Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, who wrote an article in 2005 (that was retracted by Salon) alleging the conference was intended to hide the evidence and that the lead author, Thomas Verstraeten, altered it.
Well there are a few problems with this - first, the entire transcript of the meeting is freely available (for example here) (warning, it's really long), and there is no evidence of any conspiracy to cover up or change any evidence. Second, the U.S. Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions reviewed the entire affair and found no evidence of any impropriety by either Dr. Verstraeten or the CDC. In fact, they concluded "Instead of hiding the data or restricting access to it, CDC distributed it, often to individuals who had never seen it before, and solicited outside opinion regarding how to interpret it".
52) We just need safer vaccines.
I wish I could just say "Obviously" and leave it at that. We need safer everything - safer cars, safer bicycle helmets, safer sports gear, safer lawn mowers, safer lithium batteries, safer home wiring, safer food, safer schools. Everything around us should be safe, and everything around us (for the most part) has been designed specifically to be as safe as possible with the available technology. As safer technology evolves (think seat belts followed by air bags followed by even more air bags), products get ever safer. The same goes with vaccines. As vaccine science has evolved, the number of antigens in vaccines has decreased dramatically even as the number of vaccines given has increased:
53) Measles protects against cancer.
This silly claim is based on this one article (I can't even call it a study) from 1998 in which anthroposophic practitioners (I can't even call them doctors) in Switzerland conducted a questionnaire and supposedly found that the number of febrile illnesses (ie measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, pertussis, etc) was inversely proportional to the risk of non-breast cancer. Why is this such a silly claim? To start, anthroposophic medicine is an alternative practice based on the occult, homeopathy, and other assorted pseudoscientific nonsense. As an example, Rudolf Steiner, one of the founders of anthroposophic medicine, believed 1) that the sex of a baby was determined at conception by the alignment of the stars, and 2) that the heart was not actually a pump, but that instead blood circulates via its own "biological momentum". If the founder of such a cult (I can't even call it a form of alternative medicine) can't even understand concepts as (relatively) simple as genetics and the circulatory system, I can hardly expect his devout followers to understand something as complex as running a scientific study.
And this was in fact not a scientific study. It was merely a survey of anthroposophic practitioners with all the inherent confirmation bias and observation bias one would expect. This is similar to the Bachmair questionnaire where only home-school mothers were surveyed by a homeopath. It begins with a biased premise and just goes off the rails from there.
The main reason this article is completely worthless is that it has not been replicated despite 20 years of opportunity to do so. This sort of information should have elicited an "AHA!" reaction from the medical world. Instead, there has been nothing. No replication, no confirmation, nothing. It simply isn't true.
54) People who get vaccines shouldn't be around sick people because they shed.
You may have seen this graphic from Johns Hopkins:
The recommendation now is "Close contacts of patients with compromised immunity should not receive live oral poliovirus vaccine because they might shed the virus and infect a patient with compromised immunity. Close contacts can receive other standard vaccines because viral shedding is unlikely and these pose little risk of infection to a subject with compromised immunity."
There are rare reports of various live virus vaccines shedding:
A child vaccinated with rotavirus vaccine (which sheds in stool) infected his unvaccinated older sibling, who did not require admission to hospital and recovered.
A child vaccinated with MMR came down with a mild case of vaccine-strain measles over a month after vaccination. All symptoms resolved within 5 days.
In short, yes some live virus vaccines shed as these case reports prove. However, the cases are milder than wild-type infections, and they are extremely rare. Millions of doses of these vaccines are given every year, so this argument only strengthens the argument that vaccines are extremely safe.
55) The flu shot has never been tested for its ability to cause cancer.
You have probably seen this graphic:
56) Bill Gates said vaccines are being used for depopulation.
This is the misinterpretation that just won't die. This is NOT what he said. Here is the quote taken WAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of context:
First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent
While that may seem damning, he wasn't talking about reducing population, he was talking about reducing population growth. Mr. Gates was referring to ways to reduce the creation of carbon dioxide, and one of those is to reduce the rate of population growth, not to reduce population. THAT is what he meant by "lower that by 10-15%". He has said repeatedly that as vaccination rates go up in developing nations, infant mortality goes down, and as more children survive, parents don't feel the need to have 8 or 10 children anymore (emphasis added):
"A surprising but critical fact we learned was that reducing the number of deaths actually reduces population growth. […] Contrary to the Malthusian view that population will grow to the limit of however many kids can be fed, in fact parents choose to have enough kids to give them a high chance that several will survive to support them as they grow old. As the number of kids who survive to adulthood goes up, parents can achieve this goal without having as many children."and
"When a mother can choose how many children to have, her children are healthier, they’re better nourished, their mental capacities are higher—and parents have more time and money to spend on each child’s health and schooling. That’s how families and countries get out of poverty. This link between saving lives, a lower birthrate, and ending poverty was the most important early lesson Melinda and I learned about global health."There is no eugenics conspiracy, no depopulation, no agenda 21, and no conspiracy to decrease the world population to 500 million.
57) Vaccines are contaminated with harmful particles.
This myth refers to Antonietta Gatti's rather silly evaluation of so-called contamination of vaccines with nanoparticles which backfired. First, you'll notice the paper is on Medcrave, not Pubmed. That should be a huge red flag, because Medcrave is a for-profit open-access predatory publisher. As an example, this writer had a completely fictitious case report accepted for publication, completely with supposed peer-review, for $799.
Regardless, Gatti and her partners found varying numbers of inorganic particles when they evaporated 44 samples of 30 different vaccines and looked at them under an electron microscope. And they found tiny particles of various substances including tungsten, gold, aluminum, etc, ranging from two to 1821 particles per 20 microlitres of fluid. While that seems scary, that is an incredibly small amount of these substances compared to the amount of the vaccine, which is itself very small.
They didn't use any controls, so there is no telling how many of these particles would be found in tap water or sterile saline or distilled water or anything else. The bottom line is that nothing is completely pure, but this study actually shows that vaccines are very, very pure.
58) Gardasil is dangerous.
The usual supposed dangers I hear about Gardasil are autoimmune disorders, demyelinating diseases (like multiple sclerosis), and miscarriage. However, there are myriad safety studies of Gardasil showing it to be very safe. Here is a review of 109 safety studies across six countries including over 2.5 million subjects which showed only an increased risk of local injection site reactions (pain, redness, swelling), but no increased risk of any of the various things supposedly attributed to HPV vaccines, including demyelinating diseases and neurological syndromes.
And here is a study of nearly 1 million girls in Denmark and Sweden which shows no increased risk of autoimmune, neurological, or thromboembolic events.
And here is a Cochrane review of 26 studies which found no increased risk of serious side effects or miscarriage.
The bottom line is that Gardasil is very safe. Oh, and it prevents cancer.
59) Gardasil causes premature ovarian failure.
Sorry, I left that out the last one. There are case reports of teenage girls developing primary ovarian insufficiency after HPV vaccination. But these are mere anecdotes, and even before HPV vaccination there was a 22/100,000 rate of primary ovarian insufficiency, so it has always existed. But this study of nearly 200,000 girls showed no increased risk of primary ovarian insufficiency after HPV vaccination.
60) Herd immunity doesn't exist.
Sure it does. It's been demonstrated numerous times, but I think one of the best examples was this study from Burkina Faso, in which nearly 90% of the population at risk was vaccinated for meningitis (Neisseria meningitidis serotype A, or NmA), and 13 months later when the subjects (both the vaccinated and unvaccinated) were resampled, exactly ZERO still carried NmA. As the authors conclude, "The disappearance of NmA carriage among both vaccinated and unvaccinated populations is consistent with a vaccine-induced herd immunity effect".
That's just one example. There are many others.
61) X didn't exist before vaccines.
I've seen various claims here, but the most common ones are autism (of course) and SIDS. Leo Kanner first described autism in 1943 before all but two vaccines (smallpox and diphtheria) were invented (diphtheria antitoxin was invented in 1901, and Hans Asperger was lecturing about a group of children with autism in 1938, but the vaccine didn't come out until the 1920's). And Eugen Bleuler first used the term "autism" in 1908. That is a very long-winded way of saying yes, autism actually existed before vaccines. Except smallpox, but I haven't seen a single person arguing that the smallpox vaccine causes autism. Probably because it doesn't.
As for SIDS, "crib death", or "cot death", the term was first coined in 1969. However, there are many descriptions of sudden infant death all throughout history. For example, this researcher found evidence of SIDS in the 1800's. And several examples of SIDS as far back as the Middle Ages and even from the bible (if you choose to believe it) can be seen here. Besides, the rate of SIDS has been dropping since it was discovered that putting infants on their backs decreases the risk.
Do you know what else decreases the risk of SIDS? Right, vaccines.
62) Polio never went away, it was just renamed transverse myelitis or GBS or acute flaccid myelitis.
Take a look at this:
That's a polio virus. Polio is a viral disease, and all those other things are not (as far as we know). When polio virus is isolated from a patient with a paralytic disease, it is then called polio. However, the virus cannot be isolated from a patient with Guillain–Barré syndrome, because it does not cause Guillain–Barré syndrome. It cannot be isolated from transverse myelitis patients, because it does not cause transverse myelitis. It cannot be isolated from acute flaccid myelitis patients, because it does not cause acute flaccid myelitis. While we don't know what does cause acute flaccid myelitis, we do know it is not polio.
There are several different, distinct paralytic diseases, and they all present differently. That's why they are different, distinct diseases. Polio is polio, and not polio is not polio.
63) There have been measles (or pertussis or mumps) outbreaks in highly vaccinated populations.
Yes there have, because no vaccine is 100% effective. All this does is underscore the need for both 1) better vaccines (especially pertussis), and 2) herd immunity.
However, far more common are outbreaks (and subsequent deaths) in unvaccinated (or undervaccinated) populations. Looking back at the recent Disneyland measles outbreak in 2015, 45% of the patients from California were unvaccinated while only 7% were fully vaccinated (the rest were either undervaccinated or had an unknown vaccination status).
An even sadder example is the 2019 Philippines outbreak, with nearly 15,000 cases and over 230 deaths (so far as of this writing), 65% of whom were unvaccinated.
Another example is the current outbreak of measles in Ukraine, with 24,000 cases and 9 deaths
And an even more tragic example is the ongoing outbreak of measles in Madagascar, where they have had over 82,000 cases and about 1000 deaths, two-thirds of whom were unvaccinated.
64) Squalene is dangerous.
Squalene is not an adjuvant by itself, but it is when emulsified with surfactants. It is only added to certain flu vaccines in Europe and one for seniors in the US, so it is not present in any childhood vaccine. The reason for the fear is the supposed presence of anti-squalene antibodies found in American soldiers with the so-called Gulf War Syndrome.
A few problems with this:
- Squalene is a naturally occurring substance, and your liver is making it right now as you read this;
- Anti-squalene antibodies have been found in people who have never receive any squalene-containing vaccine;
- Squalene was studied and found not to cause anti-squalene antibodies to be created.
65) Peanut oil is used as a vaccine adjuvant and is causing the peanut allergy epidemic.
A peanut oil adjuvant was tested in the 1960's, but it was never approved for use and is currently found in exactly 0 vaccines anywhere on the planet. While it is (probably) true that peanut (and other food) allergies are increasing in many countries, it isn't vaccines causing it, because much like unicorns, peanut oil adjuvants do not exist.
What is causing it is (probably) the attempted environmental sterilisation that too many parents undertake to keep their kids "safe" from germs. Unfortunately this practice appears to be preventing the normal development of the immune system and is increasing the risk of food allergies. In case you think I'm just pulling this out of thin air (which I admittedly was when I started talking about it well over a decade ago), recent evidence fully supports this hypothesis.
What is causing it is (probably) the attempted environmental sterilisation that too many parents undertake to keep their kids "safe" from germs. Unfortunately this practice appears to be preventing the normal development of the immune system and is increasing the risk of food allergies. In case you think I'm just pulling this out of thin air (which I admittedly was when I started talking about it well over a decade ago), recent evidence fully supports this hypothesis.
66) Measles virus doesn't even exist.
This mind-bending claim comes from ultra anti-vaccine advocate Stefan Lanka, who bet 100,000 euros that no one could prove the measles virus exists. Of course someone (Dr. David Bardens) proved him wrong beyond any reasonable doubt, and a court ordered Lanka to pay up. But the decision was reversed on appeal, judging that the evidence Bardens provided had to live up to Lanka's expectations. Bardens could probably have invented a machine to embiggen the virus to 2m in diameter and shoved it in Lanka's face, but so deeply entrenched are his rabid beliefs that he would have still denied its existence.
Yeah, measles virus exists. Here it is.
67) We never had all these vaccines when I was a kid, I got all these diseases, and I'm fine.
This is a perfect description of survivorship bias, because there are literally millions of other people who contracted these exact same diseases and are now dead because of them. No vaccine-preventable disease is anywhere close to 100% fatal (except rabies), so of course most people who got them survived unscathed. This doesn't make the diseases benign (see #16), it just makes you one of the majority who made it. Not every kid is as lucky.
68) Polio was caused by DDT, not poliovirus.
This is just an example of germ theory denialism. It is true that DDT was used to try to prevent the spread of polio, because at the time (mid 1940s) it was incorrectly thought that polio was transmitted by insects like mosquitoes or flies (it is actually faecal-oral).
The big problem with this hypothesis is the timing. The first polio epidemic in the US, for example was in 1894, and the polio virus was discovered in 1908. DDT, on the other hand, was invented in 1874 but was not discovered to be an insecticide until 1939, well after polio was harming children.
69) There hasn't been a vaccine safety study in 30 years.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr is the main celebrity promiting this claim, which has been wildly twisted from its origins and stems from a 1986 US law which, among other things, required that HHS report vaccine safety studies to congress. But somehow even though the reports were done, they were not all properly filed. Let me repeat - the studies were done, they just weren't properly reported. In fact, here is one. And here is a list of safety studies by year.
Do not misunderstand me, the law was not followed here, and that's not a good thing. I don't know why the reports were not properly filed, and I don't know why HHS didn't present the information to congress as they were supposed to. Regardless, safety studies have been done, task forces have regularly met and reported on vaccine safety, vaccine safety oversight committees have been formed and reported to HHS, the Clinical Immunization Safety Assessment project was started in 2001, etc etc etc.
The evidence shows that vaccines are safe, that evidence just wasn't reported properly to congress. That does not mean it does not exist.
70) MMS can cure autism.
No. It. Can. Not. There is literally no evidence to support such a ludicrous claim, so I can't even cite anything refuting it. MMS is chlorine dioxide (an industrial bleach), and some people give this either orally or rectally to their children to supposedly cure autism. This is nothing short of child abuse.
71) I'm not anti-vaccine, but . . .
If you start a statement with "No offence, but . . .", you can be assured that the next thing out of your mouth will be offensive. By the same token, any sentence starting with "Not to sound racist, but . . ." is guaranteed to be followed by something racist. Similarly, if you start with "I'm not anti-vaccine, but . . .", there is at least a 99.9974% chance (I calculated it) that yes, you are repeating anti-vaccine rhetoric.
Please do not claim to be "pro safe-vaccines", because vaccines are already safe. Please do not claim to be "pro medical autonomy", because no one is forcing you to vaccinate yourself or your children. And please do not claim to be "pro informed consent", because informed consent is already done prior to vaccination (I have signed these forms myself when my children got their shots).
72) Vaccines are against my religion.
Unless you happen to be a Christian Scientist or in the Dutch Reformed church, no they aren't. There are exactly zero major religions on the planet that have any doctrine, law, or rule against vaccines. This review article lists all major religions, including Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism. Not even Catholicism forbids vaccines, despite some of them being grown using cell lines from an aborted foetus. According to the National Catholic Bioethics Center, if there is no alternative, "One is morally free to use the vaccine regardless of its historical association with abortion. The reason is that the risk to public health, if one chooses not to vaccinate, outweighs the legitimate concern about the origins of the vaccine."
Besides, Christian Scientists believe that disease can be cured through prayer and the Dutch Reformed church believes vaccines interfere with "divine providence", whatever that means. So no, your religion does not outlaw vaccines.
73) Vaccines are injected directly into the bloodstream.
There are exactly ZERO vaccines that are injected intravenously. All vaccines (other than oral polio and intranasal flu) are administered into the muscle (intramuscular), skin (subcutaneous), or dermis (intradermal). There are, however, lots of things injected directly into the bloodstream: saline, anaesthestics, pain medicine, antibiotics, anti-convulsants, sedatives. You know those vitamin drips that are so in these days? Yup, directly into the bloodstream. Is anyone demanding to know what's in the regenerative vitamin B infusion at the vitamin bar? I didn't think so. Regardless, vaccines are not given IV. Ever.
If you are getting a vaccine directly into your bloodstream, then whoever is giving it to you is making a mistake.
74) Vaccines are unavoidably unsafe.
Yes they are. All "unavoidably unsafe" means is that there is no way for the manufacturer to make them 100% safe and prevent any side effect.
This term comes from the Restatement (Second) of Torts, which was written by the American Law Institute in 1965, 1977, and 1979. In it, an "unavoidably unsafe product" is described as "an apparently useful and desirable product, attended with a known but apparently reasonable risk." You can read a thorough explanation here.
Medicines have side effects. This is a well-known fact that is not disputed. Vaccines are medicines. This is also a well-known fact that is not disputed. Therefore, vaccines will have side effects, including serious side effects such as anaphylaxis. There is no way to predict who will develop such a reaction, so there is no way to make the vaccine safer in that regard. However, as we have learned above the risk of such serious side effects is about 1 per million doses, so the benefits far outweigh these risks.
75) Vaccines are just ways to make money.
Vaccines are made by pharmaceutical companies, and pharmaceutical companies are designed to make money. This is not even debatable, because it is fact. However, according to the World Health Organisation vaccines comprise less than 2% of pharmaceutical companies' revenue. These companies make far more with blockbuster medicines like Lipitor or Viagra. Vaccines, on the other hand, are just not big money makers.
Doctors don't really profit from vaccines either. In the UK, doctors don't get paid any extra for giving vaccines. In the US, studies have shown that paediatricians make little-to-no money giving vaccines. And that "$400 bonus" you've heard about? That's not a bonus per shot, it's a bonus given to a doctor by an insurance company for their entire cohort of patients if they immunise above a certain percentage. I'm sure you've seen the "$400 per eligible member" line on the insurance company's form, but the eligible member in this case is the doctor, not the patient. They get one bonus. That's it.
But why? Simple - money. It is far less expensive for the insurance companies to prevent a disease than to pay for treating it, and just like pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies are also in the business of making money, not paying for medical care.
Take for example this case of tetanus in an unvaccinated 6-year-old boy who spent 8 weeks in hospital at a cost of over $811,000. On the other hand, a tetanus shot costs $64 in the US, £52 in the UK, and $0 in Australia.
76) Vaccines violate the Nuremburg Code.
The Nuremburg trials were a series of twelve military tribunals which took place after the end of World War II from 1946-1949. The first of the trials (The "Doctors Trial") saw 23 former Nazis (20 of whom were doctors) tried for war crimes, including various heinous human torture experiments as well as over 3 million forced sterilisations. During the trial, doctors working with the prosecution outlined six points (later expanded to 10) which outlined legitimate human experimentation. These ten points, the Nuremburg Code, defined "Permissible Medical Experiments":
1) The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.
2) The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
3) The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.
4) The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
5) No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
6) The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
7) Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
8) The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
9) During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
10) During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probably cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
This code has nothing to do with vaccines - it is solely about human experimentation, not about established medical procedures, which always have some risk of harm and which are also covered by informed consent. The Nuremburg Code is meant to protect humans from unethical and/or immoral researchers (see Tuskegee, Unit 731, British mustard gas experiments, Soviet poison laboratory, and the Canadian tuberculosis vaccine experiment, among others). This argument is just an example of Godwin's Law.
Oh, and even if the Nuremburg Code applied to vaccines (which it doesn't), vaccines still don't violate the codes in the slightest.
77) There are no saline placebo vaccine trials.
This is a very easily disproved myth simply by searching on pubmed (NOT google) for "vaccine saline placebo". There are several dozen saline placebo vaccine trials as well as several other blog posts (which are just as easily found) which catalogue just such trials. Here are a few highlights:
- Here's one on the measles vaccine.
- And here is one on the mumps vaccine.
- Here is one on rubella.
- In case you are concerned that these are all older trials from the 1960's, here is one from 2009 on the pneumococcal vaccine.
- There are several on the flu vaccine, including this one, this one, and this one.
- And for good measure, here are three on HPV.
- Not all are positive trials, either. Here is one such negative trial for the pneumococcal vaccine which showed no efficacy for otitis media.
Saline placebo vaccine studies, lots of them, exist. This is incontrovertible and inarguable.
78) But look at the rate of autism compared with the number of vaccines! It's obvious that vaccines cause autism!
I'll just start by saying that correlation doesn't equal causation. That simply means that just because the two rates increased at the same time, it doesn't necessarily mean one caused the other. If you'd like a graphical explanation, take a look at this:
From this graph it could seem plainly obvious that organic food causes autism. But that is, of course, ridiculous. Organic food sales started going up in the 1990's just as the rate of autism was increasing. But organic food sales did not cause the rate of autism to increase, just like increased vaccine usage in the same time period didn't.
So what did?
The main reasons the incidence of autism is rising are 1) broadened diagnostic criteria in the early 1990's, and 2) increased awareness and recognition. This enormous study of over 600,000 children in Denmark found that about 60% of the perceived increase in the number of cases of autism spectrum disorder is due to changes in reporting practices. And this 16-year study also out of Denmark (which has an excellent national medical record system) found that some of the biggest increases in autism spectrum disorder incidence over the period from 1995-2010 were found in females, adolescents, and adults. In fact, 9% of the new cases of ASD were found in people aged 21-65.
Obviously adults with their fully formed brains were not suddenly becoming autistic - they were simply finally getting the diagnosis that had eluded them for their entire lives. To illustrate - I can think of at least a dozen people off the top of my head that I knew growing up several decades ago who are clearly on the spectrum but were never diagnosed. They were just "that kid" who was slightly different or had difficulties with social interactions. I never learned about autism until years later. And neither did they.
79) Well if correlation doesn't equal causation, then having antibodies to a virus doesn't necessarily mean you're immune.
Sometimes correlation DOES mean causation. For example, when we know how the adaptive immune system works, when we know exactly how and why the body forms B cells against a virus or bacterium, and when we know how those B-cells convert to plasma cells when they re-encounter the same virus or bacterium to produce massive amounts of specific antibodies against it, then yes, that correlation is causation.
The fact that I still have high titres of measles antibody (yes, I actually checked) several decades after my last measles shot, and the fact that I (and several hundred million other people) have not gotten measles since then, means I am still immune. THAT is causation.
80) Dr. Paul Offit said that babies can handle 10,000 vaccines at once.
Is it though? Paul Offit is a paediatrician, the chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, a vaccine researcher, one of the inventors of the Rotateq vaccine (rotavirus vaccines save the lives of over 25,000 children under age 5 every year), and one of the most vocal proponents of vaccines in the world. In other words, he knows a heck of a lot more about vaccines, infectious diseases, and immunology than you or I ever could. He is a world-renowned expert on the subject.
In January 2002 he published an article entitled "Addressing Parents’ Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System?" (spoiler alert: no). In it he addresses the diversity of antigen receptors, antigens and epitopes per vaccine, and generation of antibodies and B cell clones (which is some pretty fancy science), among many other things. Based on the science, he concludes,
"each infant would have the theoretical capacity to respond to about 10,000 vaccines at any one time (obtained by dividing 107 B cells per mL by 103 epitopes per vaccine)".All he tried to do is allay people's fear about vaccines using actual science (which the average person unfortunately doesn't understand), and of course he was harassed for it:
I referred to exactly this concept back up in #18 - children, especially infants who live on the floor, are exposed to thousands and possibly millions of antigens every day. Starting from the moment they exit the uterus, infants are constantly bombarded with antigens in the air, in their food, in their bath water, on their toys, on their clothes, on their pets, and on their (and your) skin. While their immune systems are not fully mature, they are more than equipped to deal with all of these antigens, so they are more than equipped to deal with a few hundred antigens in even several vaccines given all at once. And before you start with But what about all the other junk in the vaccines, please go back and read #2, #3, #4, #5, and #6 which explains why none of the other ingredients are "junk" or "toxic" at the doses given.
81) None of this matters, because viruses don't even cause disease because they don't even satisfy Koch's postulates.
There are several problems with this myth, first of which is that Koch formulated his postulates back in 1884 before microbes (viruses, bacteria, or otherwise) had been shown to cause disease. Studying cholera and tuberculosis (not viruses), he stated that for a microorganism to be proved as the causative agent for a disease:
1) The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
2) The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
3) The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
4) The microorganism must be re-isolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.
Three years after they were published, Koch himself admitted that the first postulate isn't necessary when he discovered the existence of asymptomatic carriers of typhoid fever. This idea has also been completely abandoned by modern medicine because there are many other diseases (HIV, polio, colds, flu, etc) which have asymptomatic carriers.
But viruses don't satisfy them either, because they can't be grown in culture. Viruses have to be grown on the type of cells they infect, and viruses were not known to exist in 1890 when these were first written. Furthermore, Koch also realised that not everyone who is exposed to a microorganism becomnes infected, which is why the third postulate says "should" rather than "must".
This is all just a long-winded way of saying that viruses don't satisfy Koch's postulates because Koch's postulates were not intended for viruses. The argument is moot. Viruses have been isolated from the diseases they cause. That is irrefutable.
82) Something something microchip something something deep state something.
You probably shared something like this:
There is no evidence - NONE - that this is remotely true. The Gates Foundation has funded research into a type of invisible "tattoo" which would be given at the same time as a vaccine and would provide a useful vaccination history. This is especially helpful in poorer countries where vaccination records are difficult to keep. But it is not a chip, it's just an invisible tattoo dye. And it does not contain any information other than "THIS VACCINE WAS GIVEN HERE TO THIS PERSON". No location, no personal information, nothing. If THE GOVERNMENT wants to track your location, they'll just use your mobile phone.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that it doesn't even actually exist yet - it's purely investigative at this point.
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Whew. That's all I have. I truly hope anyone makes it this far, and if you have, know that I truly appreciate it. I hope I've perhaps busted some myths, dispelled some fear, and helped you to learn something.
If you are still on the fence or have questions about vaccines, please comment below.
Edited 11 July 2020 to add #76-82.
Thank you for the work you put into this. It's really well done and it makes the information easy to digest.ReplyDelete
Isnt this just a repost of the last article??ReplyDelete
looks like it, so we'll have the same antivaxxers posting the same stupid and thinking they are making a point.Delete
Not quite. A number of people thought the last article's tone was less likely to educate and more likely to enrage, and angry people don't hear or learn too well. So he toned it down.Delete
On one hand, the previous one seemed more fitting when read by antivaxxers, but this one is definitely way better for non-die-hard-anti-vaxxers who actually are willing to learn more and are trying to see through the bullshit. So, kudos, doc!
there is such a thing as a non diehard antivaxxer?Delete
Newsflash! Anti-vaxxers are winning the war on social media. People are waking up! We are more powerful now and more knowledgeable about your fake science and the dangers of vaccines: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/12/health/cdc-vax-advisers/index.htmlDelete
yeah, how many innocent children have you sickened in Brooklyn and how much is it expected to cost?Delete
Oh, just contract tetanus and die horribly along with the rest of your unvaccinated family, will you? Some of us want to live in a world where our children are safe from those diseases. Upon my oath, I am not a violent person, but I'm starting to think of antivaxxers as rabid dogs. And rabid dogs you put down without a second thought.Delete
You took an oath to spread fear and spread fake science. Winning again!Delete
Ya and peter might as well put them down since theyll turn down the only thing thatd save them rabies.Delete
The rabies vaccine
"You took an oath to spread fear and spread fake science. Winning again!"Delete
So you can't even parse a simple English sentence (you got the meaning all wrong), and you expect people to trust your wild interpretations of available (and made up) data.
Open lid, throw credibility in, close lid, flush toilet. Goodbye, turd.
Good read, thank you for putting so much effort into it.ReplyDelete
I am so happy you took the time to make this. We need this so much right now!ReplyDelete
Thanks for a hugely interesting and valuable article. This should be essential reading for basically every adult on the planet, especially if they have or aspire to have children.ReplyDelete
I have a question, though: on #63 you write...
"An even sadder example is the 2019 Philippines outbreak, with nearly 15,000 cases and over 230 deaths (so far as of this writing), 65% of whom were unvaccinated."
If I am interpreting this correctly, it implies that in 35% of the cases, the victims had been vaccinated. This seems like a very high proportion, particularly for a vaccine that is 97% effective. Can you please explain (or point out the error in my interpretation, if there is one) ?
I'm guessing a significant number of the 35% were undervaccinated - by which I mean too young for their second dose.Delete
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the genie of world travel isn't going back in the bottle.Delete
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does the nurse know you're not taking your pills?Delete
Unlikely. I do get to wonder if anon here is proudly displaying his fetish wish...
Could you please bend over?
Amazing. Thank you for your hard work.ReplyDelete
perfect example of why vaccination is important.ReplyDelete
actually, it appears that the Americas contributed staph, strep, tuberculosis, and syphillis as well as providing their own arthritis problems.ReplyDelete
No wonder we haven't heard from you in such a long time.ReplyDelete
In some countries, this article would pass as a dissertation.
Thanks - I'll be using this as a source when battling anti-vaxxers
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I thought you said diseases are harmless and eating right protects you from them, anyway.Delete
I'm unsure this is the same poster hiding behind anonymity. Unlike previous arguments, he/she is more focused on foriegners spreading localized disease to unexposed populations. Unfortunately, we're a few hundred years too late to start that kind of tactic. There is almost no area on this planet mankind (regardless of irrelevant racial markers) cannot go to.Delete
I'm quite sure as humanity expanded across areas of the globe, that all initial contact would involve an exchange of localized diseases, and a commensurate reduction in population while they worked through the newly exposed. While many of these unintentional genocides would be considered criminal today, they were ignorant/negligent at worst in their respective time periods.
Repeatedly blaming asymptomatic carriers does not resolve, nor help to fix this problem. Vaccination DOES.
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we did. through vaccination. you're welcome.Delete
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Anon is of course right about the incomprehensible scale of disease-borne tragedy which marked the frontiers of the Columbian exchange, as well as the numberless acts of attempted genocide against Indigenous peoples which followed (and, arguably, continue). We settler-colonists have much to apologize and be accountable for. But scientists and marginalized groups (including Indigenous people) today have much to learn from each other. Science, however much it has been and can be abused, belongs in its methods and highest goals to humanity, not to any cultural, historical, or economic subgroup. Much good has, and may still, come of it, if we use it with care and humility for just and equitable ends.Delete
Here are a few interesting attempts to grapple with these issues:
You damn right I'm correct! I'm 100% Cherokee.Delete
like anybody is 100% anything any more.Delete
I'm a card carrying member of CDIB. 4/4.Delete
and your documentation goes back how many centuries?Delete
and you seem to think people missed the erlier part of the thread where I pointed out which diseases originated in the Americas.Delete
Cherokee is the most intermixed tribe in North America. Unlike most of the early settlers (who brought wives), the Cherokee tribe was beset by all of the land-expansion settlers, most of which were young men trying to find fortune.Delete
Unlike many other tribes, which were less welcoming to the traveling white devils, the Cherokee embraced them with open arms. Pretty much all of the population of south central-to-west America has some Cherokee. Thus the significantly higher number of blonde, blue eyed people who claim to be Cherokee.
As to my credentials, I have a small yet significant percentage of Chiricahua (I do not agree with using a Zuni word for enemy to represent family), and my wife is significantly Nez Perce. I've attended AIM rallies, and met many wonderful people.
"A drop is all it takes." The current trend of separatist, elitist "Indians" really runs contrary to how I was raised.
as for me, thre are rumors there was a native american somewhere in my geneaology, but they were started at a time when that was a bad thing, and so there is no documentation in existence, and we generally treat it as not being something claimed either way. but my various branches of ancestry do have up to 300 years residence on the continent as well as some really interesting routes to get here, and there is more egalitarianism than imperialism in the family stories.Delete
True story! The most beautiful girl I've ever met in my entire life( Russian) just proposed to me to get married. On one condition...that I sign a couple piece of paper. They look like life insurance policies. Is that a red flag?ReplyDelete
I would suggest having a lawyer read them for you to answer that. Could be any of a number of things, good or bad. Do your research!Delete
My father im not even kidding recieved a letter in the mail pulling the "this bank in france has X amount of money sitting there becuz random guy and his whole family died in a car accident" scam just the other day.Delete
He and i read it and had a great laugh over the whole thing
These are human diseases. Humans spread them. While I do not condone the purposeful spread of disease, calling all of these "White Man's diseases" is xenophobic, racist, and wrong.ReplyDelete
Wow, what an impressive collection of information! I'm a concerned grandparent dealing with a family member that is not vaccinating their children. While there's a wealth of information here, I'm afraid (no offense intended) that while it's amusing to me, my family member would find it inflammatory and probably wouldn't read past the first 3 paragraphs. I've taken the liberty of toning this down a bit and will email the results to you. It might be helpful to offer a version, perhaps similar to what I provide, that is more likely to be read by an antivaxxer... although I'm not sure that anything will change their minds. Thanks!ReplyDelete
Jeff, this one actually IS the toned down version. ;)Delete
antivaxxers won't read anything that doesn't reinforce their preconceptions.Delete
At the extreme end there are people so far down the anti-vaccine confirmation-bias rabbit hole that nothing will change their mind. But let's not neglect or underestimate the group of people who are vaccine hesitant because they have found many of the arguments repeated by anti-vaccine sources persuasive and not easily answerable. To them, the difference between a respectful tone and an insulting one may be the difference between (A) reading this entire article (and taking its arguments seriously) and (B) interpreting its first few paragraphs as yet more evidence of pro-vaxxers' nastiness and closed-mindedness (a backfire effect).Delete
Personally I find this version of the article far more palatable than the previous one, but then I'm a former, not current, vaccine-hesitant person. (I never identified with the labels antivaxxer, antivax, or anti-vaccine, nor have I encountered anyone, even online, who does. It seems these labels, even when superficially accurate, are the surest way to get vaccine-hesitant people to stop listening to you and to reinforce their perception that their concerns are widely neglected or misunderstood. "Vaccine skeptic" and "vaccine safety advocate" are more flattering but also misleading, as they could describe many pro-vaxxers as well. So I prefer calling people "vaccine hesitant" who, for whatever combination of reasons, have lost trust in the process of developing, evaluating, and recommending vaccines.)
Thank you for this. It won't convince the die hards but it may help the vulnerable worried. It would be good to update it for recent anti-vaxx videos like Plandemic or Vaxxed.Delete
Not anti-vax at all was actually looking at reddits vaxhappened cause anti-vaxxers post some super dumb stuff but did find a link to here on one of the post. Read all of it and gotta say I learned much more than I expected to and it just further proved why I will never be anti-vax or understand why someone would be. Seems like they do 5 min of googling specifically looking for a reason not to vaccinate instead of looking for a reason to vaccinate which is counter intuitive if you ask me but I know I will refer people here if they ever are unsure. You did your homework and it was an informative read so I want to say I appreciate it very much! Thank you for addressing all the issues people have and not just a handful of them. Your a good person for taking the time to type all this up. Really hope people find their way here if they are looking for actual facts. Thanks again for the good read!ReplyDelete
Hey. I'm the mom of one of those one in a million kids who had a serious adverse reaction to his mmr at 15 months. I'm not sure of the medical terms but he had brain inflammation where he forgot how to eat ( he needed to be put on a completely liquid diet when he was almost weaned), lost his balance and speech etc... He's behind in his development by about one year. I fall into the category of wanting vaccines to be safer but also believing how important they are. My son is now almost 4 years old and as per the vaccination schedule here he is due for his mmr once again. I am very scared and not sure I want him to have it. I also want him to have it to keep him safe. I'm wondering if there's any half measures. Could he get a series of smaller doses spread out? It might be less effective but any immunity is better than none. I am not asking for medical advice but maybe a point in the right direction to resources I might find helpful. Thank you very much.ReplyDelete
Unfortunately there are no "half measures" as you say. A partial dose of a vaccine would not cause an effective immune response, and spacing them out has not been found to be any safer. I can certainly understand and appreciate your hesitation considering what happened, but my best advice would be to speak to your son's doctor about your concerns. Ask questions, but please make sure you listen to the answers and be prepared to accept them, because they may not be exactly what you want to hear.Delete
#39: I have old enough parents that I do know people affected by these diseases, because they were born in 40s before most vaccines were available (though both received smallpox vaccines.)ReplyDelete
My maternal grandmother's twin brother died from tetanus at the age of 10.
My mom's best friend in childhood died from pneumonia from the measles.
My dad's oldest sibling died in infancy from pertussis.
My dad contracted hepatitis B as a child. As an adult, his liver only functions about 20% due to cirrhosis. He has terminal cancer, with masses in his liver that doctors cannot remove due to the cirrhosis.
I'm vaccinated against all of these. For good reason.
Please dissect this!ReplyDelete
Greatly Enjoying your blog.
There is very little dissection to be done:Delete
1) This is Geier and Geier (the father-son duo that has been trying (and failing) to pin autism on thimerosal for years) and Brian Hooker, the non-scientist whose awful excuse for "science" started the whole CDC Whistleblower fiasco.
2) Thimerosal was removed from all childhood vaccines decades ago.
3) This is a self-described "hypothesis generating cohort study". Multiple actual studies of thimerosal and autism have found no link.
In short, the authors are beating a thoroughly dead horse that has been buried for years.
What a load of Bull-SHit!! You must work for Big Pharma!ReplyDelete
What an excellent retort, full of data, evidence, and other relevant information. You must be fun at parties.Delete
Ok Dr. HouseReplyDelete
1) Geiers have their own research about this topic, what about yours? What do you mean Brian Hooker's whistleblower fiasco? William Thompson still working for CDC.
2) (Appareantly) Thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 2001 but not in all countries, and by the way, there are others toxic ingredients like Aluminum and Glutamate.
3) None of "multiple actual studies" have a double blind placebo test which is, and should be the PROVE of safeness of any drug or vaccine.
"the authors are beating a thoroughly dead horse that has been buried for years"
Yeah,Maybe that horse died because of a vaccine you still defending :-D
The Geier's "research" doesn't show anything. The first problem is that they used VAERS for their bullshit study, which is an abuse of that system. VAERS was not designed to be used the way they used it. Second, the cohort they studied (American children) are no longer exposed to thimerosal in any childhood vaccine. They weren't looking at other so-called "toxic ingredients". By the way, glutamate is an amino acid which is found in abundance in every single human being who has ever lived. Calling it "toxic" only exposes you as a cluelss fuckwit.Delete
Hooker did the supposed "re-evaluation" of Thomson's data. You know, the one I discussed WAAAAAY up above in #14, which you obviously didn't fucking read. Go read it.
As for your double blind placebo study, that was discussed WAAAAAY up above in #25, which you also obviously didn't fucking read. Go read it.
I apologise for the delay in responding, but I seldom check comments on this post. But I'll be sure to check back for any further idiocy from you, if you'd care to share it.
Hey, I remember you from the Youtube comments section about anti vaxxers. Good job on providing no sources, using your points under the assumption that safer alternatives of studying this drug doesn’t exist, nor has it been done before, and the that the golden standard is the only way of effectively studying this drug.ReplyDelete
No one has ever said that vaccine was brought by the gods or the fact that it doesn’t have any flaws. Actually, this article addresses its flaws under point 20, having vaccines take responsibility for some allergic reactions, although it’s extremely rare.
Also the last line is an ad hominem fallacy just so you know.
Thank you for saying "in high doses", thereby proving yourself wrong in your very first sentence. Well done.ReplyDelete
Second, Hooker didn't find anything. He manipulated the data. If you had read what I wrote, you'd already know that rather than defending it.
Third, the fact that vaccines are effective is not a belief. I don't really give a fuck what you believe - you can believe that a fairy flies around collecting small children's teeth and leaves money under their pillows. Know what also doesn't care about your beliefs? Evidence. There is a mountain of evidence that vaccines are effective, and no one with any sense of decency or honesty claims that vaccine advocates think or state that they are perfect or without risks.
I don't remember you ever leaving a comment here, nor do I think I give enough of a fuck to go back and look for them. You've already proven yourself to be a brainwashed cretin who understands this issue just slightly worse than a rutabaga.
You were great and everyone received so much from your experience and knowledgeReplyDelete
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I need to reread all this overtime, but Dr. Paul Thomas from Oregon has some interesting findings in his former practice. I'm sure you are aware he had his license revoked for not promoting the suggested vaccine schedule and having a number of patients not fully vaccinated. It wasn't a formal study, but I do think he had more than 12 kids to base it on. I don't know the details, but his experience mirrors mine. I have 2 older daughters who pretty much followed the guidelines. I started rethinking vaccines several years ago. My son is partially vaccinated and my youngest, a toddler, is not. I may vaccinate her, but this pandemic has bought me a little time. My oldest girls have far more medical issues than my younger - and had them by the same ages. My son has eczema and once needed pink eye drops, but my littlest has none of the asthma, allergies, or eczema issues and has never even needed Benadryl or Tylenol. I was almost 46 when I had her and I have a hard time imagining she got the best egg, though I suppose it could be so. I understand that she's had fewer human encounters due to the lockdown and social distancing, but my older children had far more issues that weren't tied to contagion. This is merely anecdotal, but I know of other families with similar experiences.ReplyDelete
I don't think there are enough studies. My dad is a doctor and he does think the number of vaccines expected are too many. He does think it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario, but he has not studied it as much as you probably have. He's a cardiologist and most of his patients were at the other end of life.
Anyway, I appreciate your taking the time and I will go through this bit by bit and research more. My pediatrician does encourage a slower schedule than most and does not pressure his patients to vaccinate. There are certain ones he advocates more than others. I appreciate his willingness to discuss such things and not bully me into compliance. I have always resented my previous doctors just sending in a form to be signed and waiting till after the fact to hand me the risk sheet. My OB bullied and bullied me to get a flu shot even though the insert stated it was not known if it was safe for the fetus. It's a hard decision because you don't want to harm your child in the process of protecting them.
I think there's a lot of valuable information on here, though I think you may still not be willing to see the risks and put too much trust in the testing. Some of the anti-vaxxer you cite may make some money off products, but pharmaceutical companies make a lot more considering they do not have to advertise or worry about liability since 1986. It think vaccines are a cash cow for them. Before the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 there were a lot of payouts b/c the vaccines did cause injury. Ignoring that isn't fair. You see the service to the public at large, but we see our precious little ones before we look at all that. I may be willing to risk myself for others, but I'm not always willing to do that with my little ones. Anyway, thanks for the links and info. Thanks also for all you do in the hospitals, too.
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