tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post6167134838570581434..comments2024-03-12T07:48:29.712+03:00Comments on Stories from the trauma bay: Jahi McMath update...sort ofDocBastardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12224592098492491365noreply@blogger.comBlogger332125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-59814797789044567492018-05-13T16:04:35.770+03:002018-05-13T16:04:35.770+03:00Just to clarify, yes, that is what loving people d...Just to clarify, yes, that is what loving people do to a family member who is paralyzed, or in a coma, or in a persistent vegetative state.<br /><br />I think what my mind is rebelling against is the make-up. Maybe people think "she always wore this make-up, so she'd have wanted to still be using it now". To me, it's always more like "she always wore this make-up, so I'll put it on her and make-believe nothing's changed".<br /><br />I can't see this as healthy.<br /><br />Then again, I can't see religion as healthy and it gives millions of people strength to see them through dark times, so meh, what do I know.Peter Piersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-2397042284945001942018-05-13T15:48:25.490+03:002018-05-13T15:48:25.490+03:00That the family is still putting make up on their ...That the family is still putting make up on their brain-dead child is...<br /><br />...creepy as all get-out. It's perfectly understandable, it's textbook "don't want to let her go", but... when I read that, I immediately pictured the whole thing. The family cleaning her, scrubbing her, washing her hair, putting make up on her...<br /><br />...at a certain point, it becomes a grotesque image. A parody of care.<br /><br />Those people need serious help accepting their loss... and the media is enabling them to continue on their ill way. Well, the media and a very stupid, callous lawyer, held up by "Dr" Byrne.<br /><br />Yes, I know this particular post is old news. I'm catching up. My point about the grotesquerie of it all seems more relevant to this old post.Peter Piersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-19991765404383835492018-01-29T11:04:32.739+02:002018-01-29T11:04:32.739+02:00Are there any updates on Jahi, the undead? It has ...Are there any updates on Jahi, the undead? It has to be amazing that her body has not just meshed and mushed up. She probably has a terrible TBI and cannot function as we do. I do believe that somewhere deep within her body that she has to recognize that she has not been able to pass over, that somebody is holding her back.Looks like her momma was right all along, she is alive. How else can anyone explain all this time without her body dying anyway? So many people look wrong now. just saying. Is there no updates on her at all?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12500348866210698785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-29252676968069336702017-12-12T04:48:35.538+02:002017-12-12T04:48:35.538+02:00There is exactly a 0% chance of that, anon. There is exactly a 0% chance of that, anon. DocBastardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12224592098492491365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-79229236202614022602017-12-12T04:47:47.413+02:002017-12-12T04:47:47.413+02:00Nope. She is still on full somatic support. Nope. She is still on full somatic support. DocBastardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12224592098492491365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-1477039980429885912017-12-12T04:02:20.246+02:002017-12-12T04:02:20.246+02:00I would like to get an update on how Jahi is progr...I would like to get an update on how Jahi is progressing. There is nothing in the news whatsoever. Is it remotely possible that all those supplements are doing something for her brain?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-66146814513992729862017-12-12T01:29:59.882+02:002017-12-12T01:29:59.882+02:00It's been a few years, and I have always wonde...It's been a few years, and I have always wondered what has happened in this case. Having kept brain dead bodies 'alive' in picu too many times, I know what eventually happens, yet they seem to have kept her body going exceptionally longer than anyone I have ever seen. Has she finally been allowed to 'die'?heathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01642634229966213532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-7559722201342765532017-09-14T07:12:09.504+03:002017-09-14T07:12:09.504+03:00The child is referred to by the initials TK in som...The child is referred to by the initials TK in some literature, background and a report on the brain autopsy available here: https://hods.org/pdf/Long%20Survival%20Following%20Baterial%20Meningits-Associated%20Brain%20Destruction1.pdfMarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-57452692227409874982017-07-18T14:44:36.265+03:002017-07-18T14:44:36.265+03:00You need a reading comprehension course John.You need a reading comprehension course John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-61086150799130570832017-06-20T19:41:52.649+03:002017-06-20T19:41:52.649+03:00ICU RN here, suction is standard in every room in ...ICU RN here, suction is standard in every room in every ICU I have ever been in as aspiration can be fatal. No we absolutely do not remove suction from an ICU room. Patients are placed in ICU because they are high risk. Since she had surgery in her throat you best be sure suction is set up and ready to go in the event of bleeding to keep her airway clear and to provide mouth care. I imagine Jahi had tons of gauze in her mouth + oozing and the nurses were using the suction much as you would at the dentists office to keep her mouth clear of drool. I have never worked with children, but in adult ICU's this is standard operating procedure. Never at any time is family allowed to use suction on a patient when they have had oral surgery as they can cause bleeding which could lead to aspiration/airway obstruction. However if the patient were in the unit for another reason, such as appendicitis or something unrelated to their airway then they would be allowed to use the suctioning device when doing routine mouth care (ie brushing their teeth). Usually ICU patients are on bedrest and this is the best way to brush your teeth in bed. <br />That said I dealt with families who routinely disregarded instructions and absolutely do everything you tell them not to do just because they were asked not to. I had to call security once on a patient's family who were attempting to feed a ventilated patient a Krystal's hamburger even though they were repeatedly told not to and the patient was sedated with a vent tube in their mouth.Little locked room.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06920262930238842861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-6501797991123319252017-04-18T04:59:37.452+03:002017-04-18T04:59:37.452+03:00What was the name of the young boy that was brain ...What was the name of the young boy that was brain dead (or persistant vegatative state) that was kept on life support of 15 to 20 years or so?<br />I can't seem to google to find it. People mention Jahi being alive and I want to cite the case of the person that was brain dead for decades on life support. As I recall, his brain was a calcified lump when they did the autopsy. Thanks for any help with the name of the patient.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-21421175541583861932016-09-21T18:39:08.196+03:002016-09-21T18:39:08.196+03:00Yet another example of the terrifying trend toward...Yet another example of the terrifying trend towards believing scientific consensus is merely one "opinion," and if any layman or quack wants to claim otherwise (even without providing a shred of credible evidence), then their "opinion" is just as valid and we should respect it and give it equal time.<br /><br />Maybe it's a symptom of the Information Age plus Dunning-Kruger in action--people like Jahi McMath's family are too ignorant to know that they're simply being ignorant, and they can easily find fellow idiots to support their claims. <br /><br />The most awful part is that it's resulted in the desecration of a child's remains. It's grotesque and horrifying. Cat McAonghusahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09359665844260850286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-59969352516375189492016-03-22T05:32:15.089+02:002016-03-22T05:32:15.089+02:00No, her bills are apparently at the expense of the...No, her bills are apparently at the expense of the state and its taxpayers. <br /><br />No one is disputing her parents' ability to sue, though the merits of the case are debatable. What we are disputing is the mother's "entitlement" of keeping a brain dead child on machines for any reason. <br /><br />My blog IS my hobby (one of them, at least). Perhaps you need to find one that interests you, since this one doesn't. DocBastardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12224592098492491365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-24494384021633594062016-03-22T04:40:44.382+02:002016-03-22T04:40:44.382+02:00Isn't she being cared for outside "the sy...Isn't she being cared for outside "the system"? Meaning her ongoing care is not at the expense of the public purse? And is a parent not entitled in a case where there may be medical malpractice to sue? I think you guys need a new hobby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-39738593725187341952016-02-19T08:28:36.764+02:002016-02-19T08:28:36.764+02:00i find it quite possible that jahi's family is...i find it quite possible that jahi's family is dragging this out because they understand they could have easily been charged with negligent homicide or similar, and shielded themselves with these legal antics. sure they may sound nuts but that just makes it harder to prosecute. the moment a lawyer heard their story of what actually happened is the moment a cockamamie scheme like this became all but necessary for their legal protection. i hope they ultimately face real justice somedayAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04821479399991459969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-33494579830845389172015-11-06T16:53:43.724+02:002015-11-06T16:53:43.724+02:00Remah - you're asking the central question tha...Remah - you're asking the central question that is at the core of the brain death debate. I've answered these questions elsewhere, but since I don't want to bother searching for them and because I don't feel like acting like an ass today, I'll answer them briefly here.<br /><br />Can a person have a beating heart and be dead? Yes.<br />Why didn't her body break down? Because her heart is still pumping oxygenated blood to her tissue.<br />Is her moving her hand a sign she is alive? No. There is no actual evidence that she is moving her hand in response to verbal stimuli. She is twitching her fingers, which is nothing more than a spinal reflex that requires no central nervous system. IF she moves in response to voice, then yes she is alive. <br />Will anyone have a head transplant? Maybe, but not anytime soon. That Italian neurosurgeon who claims he will in 2017 must be smoking smoking stronger than tobacco.<br />Is "brain death" the same as a coma? No. Coma patients are alive and can recover. Brain death is death, and there is no chance of recovery.DocBastardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12224592098492491365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-29022569502745572182015-11-05T07:40:23.923+02:002015-11-05T07:40:23.923+02:00Hey, I have 2 questions. (maybe more) When is a pe...Hey, I have 2 questions. (maybe more) When is a person considered dead? Is/can a person have a beating heart and be dead? Why didn't her body inside break down, like maybe a dead animal beside the road? I seen 2 video's with jahi responding to her mom to move her foot and then her hand, which she did. Isn't that where the brain has to listen and then send the message on in order to actually move? Don't the brain have to tell the body to respond? it has to be sad if Jahi is living dead and without hope. Maybe they need lots of money from court in case they were thinking about something like a head transplant. I read about that is gonna happen in 2017 with someone else. Also is what everyone says 'brain dead' is it being in a deep sleep coma?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12500348866210698785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-71120443168919202132015-11-03T12:15:32.610+02:002015-11-03T12:15:32.610+02:00Thanks for sharing, nice post!
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Oh god, th...http://kesselrunin12parsecs.tumblr.com/<br />Oh god, this is unbelievable. This brain dead child even got a school diploma while rotting. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09766493772413624092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-75672860494191121012015-10-04T16:29:16.796+03:002015-10-04T16:29:16.796+03:00Hey, shark, as the adult child in a foster home: t...Hey, shark, as the adult child in a foster home: there are plenty of foster homes offering love and stability. We've had two of our boys here for 2 years, and we adopted last November. Does my anecdotal evidence trump yours?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-12508812738374337412015-09-29T20:29:00.649+03:002015-09-29T20:29:00.649+03:00Has there been any updates/news on the former Ms. ...Has there been any updates/news on the former Ms. McMath?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-53841629413259178372015-08-18T18:07:09.216+03:002015-08-18T18:07:09.216+03:00Continued from previous post.
Personally, I'm...Continued from previous post.<br /><br />Personally, I'm an atheist and I believe in the higher brain death concept, I wouldn't want to be kept alive either as "brain death" or irreversibly comatose or vegetative (proven by imaging, e.g. complete higher brain destruction clearly visible on multipe imaging studies), though I don't really care because such a creature wouldn't be me but some sort of a lesser life form that perhaps deserves to live like a dog or a cat or maybe an ant deserves to live, depending on the moral views and the economic constraints of the people in charge.<br /><br />My objection to the current "brain death" practices stems from the democratic idea. I think that in a democratic regime the public should decide which approach to death they prefer, because this is a philosophical/political question (death is a legal definition, and laws are drafted by the political process). What is scientifically clear is that current technology cannot exclude some residual brain activity, whether it appears in wijdicks' "clinical tests" or not, and the question whether to draft laws that define as dead a person which is clinically comatose and does not spontaneously breathing is a political question exactly like the question of whether to do so with regard to clinically irreversibly comatose (imaging-wise proven) that retains spontaneous breathing and intact brainstem.<br /><br />The public should have all the facts and the public should decide, because, as the Nature editorial put it, "The time has come for a serious discussion on redrafting laws that push doctors towards a form of deceit";<br />http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7264/full/461570a.html<br /><br />And of course it goes without saying that just like the 1968 Harvard committe report, the public can also consider the question of organ harvesting on the matter. Now, my suspicion is that behind that "deceit" that Nature's editorial board mentions is an undemocratic conept that assumes the public would object to pronouce as dead people that have some residual brain function and therefore the public should be kept in the dark, because the public is "primitive" and organ harvesting saves a lot of lives. As a firm believer in the democratic idea i'm appalled by this kind of patronizing reasoning, and that's what motivated me to research the subject in the first place.<br /><br />As for the dangers of the Apnea test, I again recommend another one of AR Joffe's articles:<br />http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/25/11/1435.long<br /><br />Sorry for the length and the mediocre english.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1809371631407381115.post-46809250066889991082015-08-18T18:06:23.443+03:002015-08-18T18:06:23.443+03:00First, I apologize for my english, its not my moth...First, I apologize for my english, its not my mothertongue.<br /><br />There is a rising trend of scientific challenges to the "brain death" concept and criteria. Anyone interested in the subject as I am should read Truog, Shewmon, Karakatsanis and AR Joffe amongst many others, and of course the president's bioethics committee that basically accepted the compelling evidence against this concept but obviously out of political motivations (organ harvesting) declined to outright reject brain death, instead renaming it "total brain failure".<br /><br />The "brain death camp", so to speak, headed by wijdicks and bernat, basically redifines brain death again and again in response to those challenges, and their current approach is that "brain death is a clinical condition", meaning that theoretically a patient with a completely normal brain structure and functions per imaging studies (AND neuropathologic examination post-mortem) will still be declared "brain dead" by their definition.<br /><br />So today they basically define brain death as "irreversible" (they admit they cannot define "irreversible", Wijdicks 2010) coma without spontaneous breathing, going backwards 50 years to the french "Coma de Passe" and disregarding any scientific progress made after that time. <br /><br />AR Joffe nicely summarizes the problematic nature of this "clinical condition" approach:<br /><br />"The bedside tests used do not confirm lack of all functions or destruction of the entire brain. Electroencephalography (EEG) activity is detectable after BD in 20%, brainstem evoked potentials remain in about 5% after BD, some hypothalamic functions remain in up to 50% after BD, and case reports describe breathing above the current cutoff (PaC02 above 60mmHg) for lack of breathing on the apnea test. Once confirmatory cerebral blood flow studies are done, 5% have brain blood flow when they are BD. When cerebral blood flow is measured by computed tomographic (CT) angiography, over 30% have brain blood flow after BD. The solution offered for these problems is that any remaining functions of the brain are due to “nests” of neurons not needed for integration of the organism. This is problematic for two reasons. First, as discussed above, there does not always seem to be irreversible loss of integration of the organism in BD. Second, how these “nests of neurons not required for integrating function” differ from other functions tested (such as a pupil reflex to light, an ineffectual breath at a PaC02 of 60mmHg, a slight withdrawal of a limb, a movement of an eye to cold water injected into the ear canal, etc.) which are stated to be critical for integration of the organism is unclear."<br /><br />Continued in the next post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com